British GP: Hamilton claims pole…twice

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Lewis Hamilton has improved his chances for making it three wins in a row at the British Grand Prix. His pole-securing lap came after his penultimate pole-securing lap time was eliminated due to exceeding track limits but the 3-time champ fought back in the waning minute of Q3 and secured pole by 0.319s effectively having to set pole twice.

The American broadcast started coverage suggesting that the FIA were to clamp down on any track limit incidents with zero tolerance and when Kimi Raikkonen and Max Verstappen exceeded track limits but weren’t penalized, the NBC Sports crew were slightly confused by that. When Hamilton’s lap was eliminated, the crew were slightly miffed as to why only to reveal during the broadcast that guest steward Nigel Mansell tweeted the details. According to Mansell, pre-race driver instructions were that track limits would be enforced with zero tolerance at Turns 9, 15 and 18 – Copse, Stowe and Club.

Nevertheless, Hamilton’s deleted lap was motivation to do it again and Lewis promptly put in a blinder and took pole. His teammate was also summoned to the FIA for a breach in regulations for exceeding the maximum time between the safety car line after pit exit and the safety car line before pit entry. He was absolved of any penalties.

Red Bull looked good in qualifying besting Ferrari with Max Verstappen also outqualifying team-mate Daniel Ricciardo, for the first time since moving over to the team mid-season, by 0.305s.

Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen topped teammate Sebastian Vettel and the German will start in 11th due to a gearbox-change penalty.

PosDriverCarTimeGap
1Lewis HamiltonMercedes1m29.287s
2Nico RosbergMercedes1m29.606s0.319s
3Max VerstappenRed Bull/Renault1m30.313s1.026s
4Daniel RicciardoRed Bull/Renault1m30.618s1.331s
5Kimi RaikkonenFerrari1m30.881s1.594s
6Valtteri BottasWilliams/Mercedes1m31.557s2.270s
7Carlos SainzToro Rosso/Ferrari1m31.989s2.702s
8Nico HulkenbergForce India/Mercedes1m32.172s2.885s
9Fernando AlonsoMcLaren/Honda1m32.343s3.056s
10Sergio PerezForce India/Mercedes1m31.875s
11Sebastian VettelFerrari1m31.490s
12Felipe MassaWilliams/Mercedes1m32.002s
13Romain GrosjeanHaas/Ferrari1m32.050s
14Esteban GutierrezHaas/Ferrari1m32.241s
15Daniil KvyatToro Rosso/Ferrari1m32.306s
16Kevin MagnussenRenault1m37.060s
17Jenson ButtonMcLaren/Honda1m32.788s
18Jolyon PalmerRenault1m32.905s
19Rio HaryantoManor/Mercedes1m33.098s
20Pascal WehrleinManor/Mercedes1m33.151s
21Felipe NasrSauber/Ferrari1m33.544s
22Marcus EricssonSauber/Ferrari

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Peter Riva
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Okay, I’ll admit, I talk to the TV. I was actually yelling for Diffy to shut the H**l up. The total nonsense he was spouting about it being unfair Hamilton was penalized for exceeding the track limits… and then Mansell tweeted the actual corners! What are NBC paying for? Gossip? Guessing? SERIOUSLY Amateur reporting. This is getting really stupid. Now, I know NC and others pirate (oops, sorry VPN) overseas broadcasts and may not have heard the Diffey-led trio whining on and on inaccurately about track limits, but, on top of all that, they didn’t even listen to or read… Read more »

Gram
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Gram

FYI Hobbs is a real racer. You’re seeing red mist so it would be futile to attempt to explain how inconsistently they enforced the rule. I’m not a big fan of NBC’s coverage either, much prefer Sky. But you’re getting seriously worked up over some trivial nonsense.

Mike S
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Mike S

I’ll add to this. I sooo appreciate the NBCSN crew, but Diffy…plz there are time to be quiet! Last week, FOR THE FIRST TIME, I was digging the sound of the V6 turbos, and he was talking OVER them! For those of us who love the V12/10/8 eras, the Turbo 6’s are sounding better. Listen to the sound (around Diffy’s screeching) when Nico and Lewis were approaching turn 2 in tandem. The growl and downshifting of the 2, coming up the hill for the corner is mesmerizing..I have rewound the DVR 100 times listening to it. Also, the McLaren/Honda sounds… Read more »

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th3chainrule

Unrelated to qualifying, but the updates that Mercedes have brought to Silverstone this weekend have me wondering just how much is left in the tank development wise for this iteration of cars. These shapes and features are absolutely mental to see, they really add to the F1 splendor for me but do they also signal we’re at the point of diminishing returns? I’m glad 2017 has new set of regulations to interpret. Look at the leading edge of the Merc rear wing. Nukkin Futs!

Gram
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Gram

That’s the cool thing about F1. There’s in-house R&D and then there are developments you can copy from rivals. That ceratted wing design was copied from Toro Rosso. It might look like the Mercedes W06 is maxed out but there is still so much more they can do to make it even faster because there will always be something another team does better than them despite their dominant performance advantage.

JakobusVdL
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JakobusVdL

Great pics JB, the life of an F1 aerodynamasist must be so intense. Chasing down micro improvements in performance with evermore complex shards of carbon fibre.

Mike S
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Mike S

awesome shapes!

MIE
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The FIA notice was read by the circuit commentators before qualifying started, which lead to some quick interpretation of which corners were turns 9, 15 & 18, as the FIA didn’t bother to name them.

It sounds like Ericsson will be able to start tomorrow after his big shunt in FP3. The most worrying thing about the accident being his steering wheel coming off after the initial impact.

JakobusVdL
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JakobusVdL

It looks like Mercedes have got a lock on Silverstone. I haven’t seen practice or quali, but the times show the performance gap to the other teams is back out to where it was for most of the first two laps. Lets hope the Merc drivers take each other out in the first corner so we can see a race (just stirring )

TheMan
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If they’re going to change the “track limits”, then they should paint the line accordingly, i.e., outside of the offending curbs.
Or, more sensibly, just use the existing white line and ignore the curbs. At least the fans would have some sort of clue what was going on.
This was an asinine decision on the part of the stewards and does nothing but make obeying, and policing, a simple rule more difficult.
I’d bet that a percentage of viewers just bailed because of the ongoing arbitrary and just plain ignorant mandates by F1.

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The kerbs are always ignored, in relation to the track limits. The white line that lines the track is what defines the track edges. The line is considered part of the track, while the kerbs are not (which is why they are on the outside of the white line). If at any point all four wheels are outside that line, you are considered to have left the track (even if two wheels are still on the kerb, since that isn’t part of the track). If any part of any tyre is touching the line, you are considered to still be… Read more »

Mike S
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Mike S

Kinda cool, like or dislike LH and Merc, it disproves a lucky team setup or driver one-off lap theory. Way to go Merc & LH.

henrik,dk
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henrik,dk

Hi, off track confusion also on DK and DE television , lucky that DK kevin went outside in other turns…….. bad for television trace. Thx for great site. Henrik,DK.