Formula1blog.com Podcast #498- Mexican GP Review

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Join Paul and me as we review the Mexican Grand Prix. We cover the controversy over third place, Lewis’s glazed brake disc and cutting across the grass, Max’s trip across the grass, the FIA’s penalties, Daniel Ricciardo going soft on us and more.

Who’s penalty was correct? Who’s wasn’t? Why did Vettel lose the trophy and who was the drive of the race? We discuss it all right here. We even hand out awards a nonsense like that.

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Jack Flash (Australia)
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I laughed so hard when I saw this appear on fb.

Negative Camber
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LOL…love it.

pmr
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pmr

Haha, brilliant. That one won’t be broken for quite a while :-)

Coji
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Biding behind reason for not penalizing HAM by saying he lifted significantly reminds me of ROS saying he had a massive lift in the qualifying controversy of this year. ROS didn’t deserve a penalty this race. HAM did. As did VES and VET. I’ve had it with Diffy. He’s way too much for me. We all know JPM is t great in front of camera, but come on with that interview. Probably the worst of the year so far. Was RIC’s lock up purely because of his small steering wheel wiggle? It seemed to me that he wouldn’t have hit… Read more »

Zachary Noepe
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Zachary Noepe

They do this in American football, in a way, if you challenge and you lose the challenge, you lose something (a time out). They could say bitch all you want but it’s four tires for the next race every time you do.

pmr
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pmr

NC are you condoning Vettel’s Radio behaviour in the last race? I don’t mind swear words, and it provides some entertainment listening to the Ferrari drivers winge each race. Lord knows i probably swear more then the avarage person. But telling the race director to F-off is a whole different bal game then asking to get this F-ing guy out of the way is. It’s not the word itself, but the intent. I can’t see FIA letting this slide, and as per motorsport.com they are already looking into it. I guess the weight of the whole of Italy is to… Read more »

Negative Camber
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I do not condone it at all and I think they should speak with him about it if not fine him or have him work with the FIA for a program or two to show he respects and supports the organization. I think Seb should offer to do that as well for his own brand and feelings on the matter. It is important to respect the regulatory body of the sport but it is also important to respect the pressure, context and heat Seb was under during the incident. I’m sure it’s not the first time someone has told Charlie… Read more »

pmr
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pmr

Ah ok, in the podcast it sounded (to me) that you didn’t mind. And indeed FOM could have not aired it but FOM want spectacle and controversy, so they only air the ‘juicy’ bits.
Making Seb work for FIA is a great idea, they should put him in as marshall. Then he can wave blue flags all day :-)

Negative Camber
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I can handle foul language but I would prefer my children not have to endure it from the media we are bombarded with and in that vein, I would appreciate the drivers dropping the foul talk but I also am human and know that in the heat of battle, things come out…as my children will eventually find out the first time they face such a moment. FOM have broadcast a lot of beeped messages from Kvyat, Kimi and others on the grid so Seb’s wasn’t anything new but the target of his language was and that’s the concern. He wrote… Read more »

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I still think Seb and maybe even Arrivabene should fined for their post-race words, bad or otherwise. Under the old, unforgiving FIA, it would be a huge fine plus some other punitive judgment on the team. Never thought I would be longing for Max Mosley’s return.

Negative Camber
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On a side note, I don’t think Charlie is too hurt by it but Seb’s rep as a 4-time champ certainly is so he’s taking most of the damage from his own actions.

MIE
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The issue of track limits has been getting worse for some time
https://theparcferme.com/f1-news/then-and-now-track-limits/
Perhaps it is time that the vast high grip tarmac run off areas were redesigned to ensure that any car running over them would suffer a time penalty (perhaps by excessively wearing the tyres, or coating them with something to make them lose grip). If this feature was built in to the circuit, there would be fewer arguments over whether any driver gained an advantage by missing out a corner.

FryDaddy
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FryDaddy

Good idea. There is nothing that would keep them from putting a software patch that would limit engine rpm or motor torque either.

puptentacle
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puptentacle

Bernie was quoted this week saying that in his opinion there should be a 20cm “wall” (his term) around every inch of the track!

FryDaddy
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FryDaddy

Because nothing says safety like a 20cm wall.

Paul Charsley
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He also said he saw nothing wrong with what Verstappen did! Dont trust the Bernie

Negative Camber
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Brundle said they should have to drive through pitlane if they make a mistake like that. Seems rather harsh.

MIE
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I would much rather the track imposed the penalty instead of relying on the stewards to apply rules consistently.
While Bernie’s walls would do this, a less destructive method must be possible (a metre wide strip of sand around the circuit – just enough to coat the tyres so the lost grip for a few corners). Something to encourage drivers that it is better to remain within the confines of the circuit. After all they all manage at Monaco (except Verstappen, but he would soon learn).

Coji
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So gravel is bad for MotoGP (I don’t watch it but hear this said as fact in many places, so I’m assuming it as true). Is there a problem with grass? In Mexico, it didn’t slow down HAM or ROS or VES, but perhaps use a cone (bollard) and have them drive around it as well like on several other tracks on the calendar, with a gentle slope away from the course? Then after a bit of distance, incorporate the abrasive tarmac (which seems like it would be at least equally as detrimental to a motorcyclist off his bike) as… Read more »

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The International’s criticism on the Hamilton non-penalty for straight-lining the chicane surprised me. Certainly, he has watched F1 long enough to know that race stewards typically overlook such infractions on the 1st and 2nd laps of a race.

Paul Charsley
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sure , but doesn’t mean i think it correct, have you ever heard me talk about DRS? Hashtag-Wont let it go

The Captain
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The Captain

Never let it go!

The Captain
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The Captain

I really hope you didn’t think I was one of those taking you to the woodshed over your article on the ‘verstappen rule’ even if I KINDA disagree. If it did I’m sorry, (I just thought you where trying to spark debate man). But I guess my problem is, what is the solution when one person won’t follow that unwritten rule everyone else is playing by? I don’t think the all the other drivers suddenly became pansies, so that’s why I don’t think it’s a over concern for safety thing (I trust the drives on this one). And I don’t… Read more »

Mirko Akov
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I think that Hamilton deserve penalty for corner cutting as well. Its is clear that he can make the corner, but he decided to go over the grass as it will save his tires.
And this is clear advantage to me.

As for Vettel-Ricciardo incident – that’s the racing I would like to watch on Sunday :)

m_walker26
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m_walker26

I am getting ready to appear on To Tell the Truth. I think my line is….
Hello. I am Mark Walker and I finished third at the Mexican Grand Prix.

Negative Camber
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Wait…I thought I did. ;)