Podcast #530- Baku GP Review

Join Paul and me as we review the Formula 1 Baku Grand Prix. We discuss the Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel debacle, road rage nonsense, the children, the teams as they finished and even hand out a few awards in the process. 

Who was the Donkey of the Race? Who had the Drive of the Race? You’ll have to listen and find out. Was it Bottas and Ocon’s fault or someone else’s? Did Lewis do anything wrong or was it all vettel’s issue? #Vexit 

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I found what you guys said about Verstappen vs Ricciardo a bit weird. I am a Verstappen fanboy, so take IT with a pinch of salt. But to me it seems that Verstappen outdrove Ricciardo so far. I Just dont see how points are a good measurement, especially of they are not racing for the championship.

Then i also dont think that these last few races are normal for a season, but Will say that Verstappen could be better in supporting the team and not suggesting he might move.

Negative Camber

I don’t think I’ve made any disparaging comments about Max, he’s awesome but mechanical issues have him on the back foot this year compared to Dan.


Hi! Thx for the response. I did not mean to say that and maybe i put it too harshly. I personally just don’t agree with Max hitting the wall called Daniel (liked that frasing though!). Plus i dont feel like the points difference really puts Verstappen on the backfoot. In the community at least, a lot of people rate Verstappen higher then Ricciardo despite the points gap (although there are a lot of dutchies online ;-)). But it could be that this is different for the people around the paddock. You would probably know that better than me! Anyhow, great… Read more »

Negative Camber

Agreed, the points represent Max’s bad luck, not his inability to race against Daniel but what I think we are saying is that Daniel is no pushover. He’s a very, very good driver and Max may have his work cut out for him in trying to be the top driver at the team.

Clayton Brown

Didn’t you guys say something like “Max has come on expecting a walk in the park”? I don’t know, but I remember thinking, “man these guys are being a little hard on the skinny dutchman” haha. Love the show


Hi guys, thanks for your nice blog again. Couple of thoughts about the RIC – VER statements. Emotions are all part of the game in my opinion, and I respect the choice made by VER to calm down and react the day after instead of immediately. Im my mind, we cannot have ‘personalities’ on the grid, and then when **** happens, expect them to act as robots ;-) Although VET overdid it, this time ;-) In Max’ skype-interview day after, he showed – to have no suspicion at all about foul play within the team, – empathy for his mechanics… Read more »

Clayton Brown

I was thinking the same thing. Compare his comments with the typical comments from Hamilton or vettel (who I love)

charlie white

So if the chaotic 2011 Canadian Grand Prix eventually gave the sport high degradation tires, what will come from the 2017 Baku Grand Prix? A mandatory Safety Car period? But seriously folks, Pirelli decides to “retire” the hard tire for remainder of the season. I think now everyone should be taking pitchforks to Pirelli for this year’s lack of difference in the tire compounds.

Negative Camber

If I’m honest, Charlie, I would have done the same thing as Pirelli with the complete unknown with these new cars. Can you imagine the backlash had they made tires too soft and blown/exploding tires was the norm?

Peter Riva

My take on the race: 1. it is normal for every driver to decelerate as he comes off a corner (not before the corner). 2. It is normal for 200pmh bullet-proof cars to suddenly, mysteriously become dangerous and deadly at 50mph and strike “disgrace” fear in drivers. 3. It is normal for leading drivers never to look in their mirrors to check for danger (to themselves or anyone else). 4. It is normal for pundits to assert that road insurance claims always apply to F1 (the car in back is always to blame). 5. It is normal for a two… Read more »

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Jimmy Foley

Any thoughts on the penalties to Perez and Raikkonen? I know they were hit for being moved from the fast lane under red flag conditions but if you’re never in the fast lane, you can’t remove yourself from the fast lane. Granted, unless other wild events took place, neither was going to score points. I’m just curious about the rules for reentering the race once it seems you’ve retired the car.

Negative Camber

Them’s the rules but I hated to see that after what Ferrari did to get that car back out.


This podcast should have been subtitled: Todd really wants you to know he’s not defending Vettel, as he defends Vettel :-P

Just poking a bit of fun :)

Graeme Fuller

After watching the race, I eagerly awaiting the podcast to hear NC and the international’s views and I found myself agreeing with both gentlemen. In the VET vs HAM incident, Paul pointed out correctly that ultimately the driver (VET) has the responsibility to avoid a collision.

Certainly this race was full of drama, incidents and mayhem and a different podium. Please keep up the great work.