Hamilton on pole in Austria despite ‘stupid’ curbs

Saturday’s Austrian Grand Prix qualifying session was punctuated by a series of suspension failures and more rain but in the end, it was Lewis Hamilton who put his car on pole position.

With pole position in his pocket and his teammate and championship leader, Nico Rosberg, starting seventh due to a gearbox change penalty, Hamilton looks good for Sunday’s race but he does fear the tire strategy of Ferrari:

“We had the supersoft available. I think they saw, I am guessing, Ferrari go out and see if we can do the time, even though there is a time delta.

“Naturally a hard tyre goes further so it doesn’t seem such a bad option they have gone for. That is not a bad thing.

“I think the ultrasoft is not a good tyre for the race so it will be a struggle to get a lot of laps out of it. It will be interesting.

“I hope I have an advantage at the start from being on the softer tyre. In practice, my tyre lasted for four laps. Nico says five, so definitely will be tricky and we will do the best we can with it.”

Now this could come into play here as the FIA have cracked down on some tire pressure trickery that Mercedes were doing with heating the wheel, tire and brake system in order to reduce tire pressure during the race for better grip. If Mercedes have lost that small edge, it could mean that Ferrari’s tire strategy may be an advantage but it will need to be as the team are still off the pace of Hamilton.

The big talking point was the suspension failures of four different constructors and while the circuit has been fitted with the sausage curbs, they have been followed by an even larger curbing called the negative curbing which many are now suggesting is the cause of the all the suspension failures.

The reality is that the teams all test their suspensions and are approved by the FIA and to have four different makes fails on one track is perhaps indicative that something is amiss. Deterring a driver from taking too much curb is one thing, damaging cars is another and as we saw from the violent crash of Toro Rosso’s Daniil Kvyat, possibly dangerous. Kvyat said:

“They should take them off,” Kvyat said. “They’ve done a mistake, they have to admit that it’s stupid.

“Last year we had Astroturf at that corner, which is completely fine – you lose time.

“Now if you go on the kerb you continue because you don’t lose time, but the suspension fails.”

While some are complaining of the curbs, Daniel Ricciardo, Sebastian Vettel and Nico Rosberg have a simple answer—stay off the curbs. Ricciardo says he treats it like a wall and Vettel says that he feels they need to look at it for next year but for now, stay off of them.

Nico Rosberg experienced the same issue as Sergio Perez this weekend with a damaged suspension and it cost him a gearbox change prompting a 5-place grid penalty just like Perez in Baku. Once again, like with Perez, it has raised the question of penalties for parts changed due to damage from a crash.

It also prompted a new discussion over the penalties incurred for changing parts period as Hamilton is now running dangerously close to a penalty as he is on the 5th change for two of his engine components. Another change means a grid penalty of 10 places.

The qualifying session was a dry, wet, dry affair and what we have seen from the new tarmac in Austria is just how fast it dries out. The teams switched to dry tires with just a few minutes left in Q3 and it was going to be the last man across the line who was the fastest.

As it turned out, McLaren’s Jenson Button and Force India’s Nico Hulkenberg factored as two surprises as they will inherit 2nd and 3rd on the grid after Rosberg and Vettel’s penalties. Another surprise was Manor’s Pascal Wehrlein who did a masterful job of getting into Q2.

It all looks good for the defending champion in Austria and that’s if Lewis Hamilton can avoid the curbs and mechanical issues this weekend.

Austrian Grand Prix Qualifying Results

1Lewis HamiltonMercedes1m07.922s
2Nico HulkenbergForce India/Mercedes1m09.285s1.363s
3Jenson ButtonMcLaren/Honda1m09.900s1.978s
4Kimi RaikkonenFerrari1m09.901s1.979s
5Daniel RicciardoRed Bull/Renault1m09.980s2.058s
6Valtteri BottasWilliams/Mercedes1m10.440s2.518s
7Nico RosbergMercedes1m08.465s0.543s
8Max VerstappenRed Bull/Renault1m11.153s3.231s
9Sebastian VettelFerrari1m09.781s1.859s
10Felipe MassaWilliams/Mercedes1m11.977s4.055s
11Esteban GutierrezHaas/Ferrari1m07.578s-0.344
12Pascal WehrleinManor/Mercedes1m07.700s-0.222
13Romain GrosjeanHaas/Ferrari1m07.850s-0.072
14Fernando AlonsoMcLaren/Honda1m08.154s0.232s
15Carlos SainzToro Rosso/Ferrari
16Sergio PerezForce India/Mercedes
17Kevin MagnussenRenault1m07.941s0.019s
18Jolyon PalmerRenault1m07.965s0.043s
19Rio HaryantoManor/Mercedes1m08.026s0.104s
20Daniil KvyatToro Rosso/Ferrari1m08.409s0.487s
21Marcus EricssonSauber/Ferrari1m08.418s0.496s
22Felipe NasrSauber/Ferrari1m08.446s0.524s

Austrian Grand Prix Starting Grid

1.  Lewis Hamilton (Britain)     Mercedes                 
2.  Nico Huelkenberg (Germany)   Force India - Mercedes   
3.  Jenson Button (Britain)      McLaren                  
4.  Kimi Raikkonen (Finland)     Ferrari                  
5.  Daniel Ricciardo (Australia) Red Bull - TAG Heuer     
6.  Valtteri Bottas (Finland)    Williams-Mercedes        
7.  Nico Rosberg (Germany)       Mercedes                 
8.  Max Verstappen (Netherlands) Red Bull - TAG Heuer     
9.  Sebastian Vettel (Germany)   Ferrari                  
10. Felipe Massa (Brazil)        Williams-Mercedes        
11. Esteban Gutierrez (Mexico)   Haas - Ferrari           
12. Pascal Wehrlein (Germany)    Manor - Mercedes         
13. Romain Grosjean (France)     Haas - Ferrari           
14. Fernando Alonso (Spain)      McLaren                  
15. Carlos Sainz Jr (Spain)      Toro Rosso - Ferrari     
16. Sergio Perez (Mexico)        Force India - Mercedes   
17. Kevin Magnussen (Denmark)    Renault                  
18. Jolyon Palmer (Britain)      Renault                  
19. Rio Haryanto (Indonesia)     Manor - Mercedes         
20. Daniil Kvyat (Russia)        Toro Rosso - Ferrari     
21. Marcus Ericsson (Sweden)     Sauber - Ferrari         
22. Felipe Nasr (Brazil)         Sauber - Ferrari

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Richard Piers

They are kerbs, dear boy, kerbs. They may also, of course, be curbs but only if they are abused. Do wish you guys would learn to speak English it’s such a nice language. Cheers

Paul KieferJr

I speak English just fine…..AMERICAN English (“C-U-R-B-S”). I won’t rag on you for your European version (“K-E-R-B-S”) if you won’t rag on me for mine. Deal?


The key thing is, we all know what both versions mean, so its not preventing communication.

Richard Piers

Far too sensitive !


It seems to me that the yellow herbs are a bit too much. But the 4 PSI (!!!) tire pressure increase mandated by Pirelli may prove to be the proximate culprit.


That was a really exciting qualifying session. Seeing Wehrlein get a Manor into 12th on the grid, Hulkenberg put his Force India on 3rd, the Ferrari p.u upgrade which seems to have been effective, and Mercedes rebuild Rosberg’s car in under 2 hours. I expected better from McLaren (best equal p.u, third best chassis, and a decent Number 2 driver, I expect them to be in the top three every session). But still good to see a McLaren in the front three rows again. Seeing the Mercedes and Toro Rosso suspension failures on the ‘normal’ red kerbs is worrying for… Read more »


I forgot to raise the question that I’m sure blazed across the minds of all right minded F1 fans!
Will Mercedes apologise to Nico for ruining his practice and Quali, and hampering his right to the WDC title this year?
I suspect those former Hamilton mechnanics on his team fitted old or knackered parts after ‘Our Nico’ won Baku, and headed FP1 & 2.
#onlykidding ;-)