Outrage points: From DRS to curbs to points

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A few new Outrage Points for your social media account from Free Practice today and we’ll start with Lewis Hamilton since it is his home grand prix and he usually does very well here. So start tweeting your outrage!

DRS

The British Grand Prix will not only have those “special” compound tires that Mercedes like so much but it was also feature three DRS zones (that’s triple the pleasure for guys like Paul) and this could make it possible for drivers to keep the system open into turn one. As you might imagine, there was a crash there during practice. Lewis said, “I told you so”:

“It’s not tricky, no. It’s kind of a pointless exercise, and kind of just dangerous.

“We used to have DRS everywhere [in practice and qualifying] and we had to engage [it] and take off, and they stopped us from doing that because people were spinning off.”

“I remember yesterday, when we did the brief, I was like, ‘Ron, you should tell Charlie, someone’s going to crash’. Because the speeds we go into Turn 1 are insane.

“And what happened today? I was like, ‘told you’.

Oh the joys of DRS and how we’re having so much fun with it this year.

Curbs…or Kerbs for my British friends

The FIA got a little miffed with all the drivers taking full advantage of Club Corner so over the night, the FIA’s Charlie Whiting will summon Curb Elves (they look like Keebler elves, not Legolas, with buckets of asphalt and concrete) to put in more substantive curbs at the corner.

These will be similar to the dastardly sausage curbs in Austria that everyone broke their front wings on and forced McLaren’s Fernando Alonso to use balsa wood, tape, Flex-Seal, a toothpick, rubber bands and some 3-in-1 oil to fashion a front wing in order to charge to 8th place.

You can thank that young Frenchman, Pierre Gasly, for ruining it for everyone:

“I used all the track I could and nobody told me anything,” said Silverstone F1 rookie Pierre Gasly.

“As nobody told me anything then of course I keep going wide. For tomorrow [Saturday], I think it’s a little bit more fair for everyone [to add the kerb].

“If someone will tell me I’m guilty I’ll say, ‘Yes’, because I was going completely out, because it’s lap time and you want to go as fast as you can.

“It’s a way to make it a bit more fair between everyone and it’s probably a good idea.”

You know, no one said anything, so I figured…screw it, I’m going over there. Seems legit.

Points…trophies for everyone!

Also being discussed the the notion of giving points for all twenty positions instead of just the top 10 finishers. Sure, everyone gets a point according to comments made by Vijay Mallya who made a rare appearance at one of the only races he can attend without getting…how shall we say…”detained”.

“They’re considering whether the points system should go all the way down to 20,” said Mallya.

“Every car scores a point if they finish the race. The bottom starts with one point and then goes up.

“Or whether 10 should be extended down to 15. All these discussions took place.”

“The point that was made is that there’s a certain panache at being referred to as finishing in the top 10,” Mallya told Autosport.

“That will get diluted if you start giving points down the line.”

You think? That’s all we need…more points to count. Doesn’t this seem like a rather rudimentary and perhaps junior league discussion or does it make all the sense in the world and I’m just completely missing it?

Belgium

If there were any incentive for Belgian ace, Stoffel Vandoorne, to finally beat his teammate and get the world’s F1 press off his back because hasn’t done so in a car that can barely get out of its own shadow, then the World Cup victory Belgium put down on a flopping Neymar-fueled Brazil might do it.

Hat Tip: The magicians over at Autosport

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I could go either way with the points idea. It doesn’t mean that they need to be substantial, but at the end of the year when you have 5 drivers with no points it would be nice to be able to rank them without having to go back and look at finishing positions to determine it.

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And more important (to me, and because its how they decide the $$$’s) we’d be able to rank the teams without doing a count back.
On the other hand does Williams getting one car home 2 laps off the lead in 13th, in Austria warrant 8 points?
And presumably Mercedes who qualified 1 and 2 and retired from the front of the race, would get nil.

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On DRS-it pains me to agree with LH but he’s right. Plus, the FIA has added a 2nd or 3rd DRS zone to encourage passing with little impact or passing. Just stop. On curbs or kerbs-Silverstone should just put gravel or re-grow grass at Club and Stowe run-off areas just to piss off the FIA. This re-alignment of the points-I can only assume Vijay has some US-based relatives to take this idea from community youth sports where everyone gets a trophy. It’s F1 and there are no losers here. I’m sure many eyes rolled in the Strategy Group meeting when… Read more »

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Another outrage point, Ver-crash-en giving comment on F1 drivers competing at Le Mans.
When asked if he saw himself heading to La Sarthe in the future, Verstappen quipped: “Maybe, if I end up old and slow, then I’ll look at it.”

Okay, that quote is deliberate click-bait to an interview that is actually pretty reasonable, but let’s not let that stand in the way of being outraged at the arrogance of the ‘young dutchman’……
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/f1/verstappen-maybe-i-ll-look-le-mans-when-im-old-and-slow

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DRS, I’d prefer not to have it, but we know how much more processional the races would be without it. Adding extra DRS zones is not good if it just means following cars can cruise past on the straights. I understand the original intent of DRS was so following cars could get close enough to ‘contest the braking area’, which we know takes skill and is exciting when drivers get it right (step forward Mr Ricciardo). But that’s not how it’s been applied. Hopefully with the new aero rules for 2019, they’ll be able to drop DRS entirely, or cut… Read more »

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Outrage Point #5 – Too much safety.
Good grief, did you see Hartley’s FP3 practice crash?
A front suspension failure like that must be terrifying for the driver, it was pretty terrifying to watch.
The car went into the barriers at barely diminished speed.
The front and side protection, halo, cockpit padding, seat belts, HANS device, wheel tethers, helmet and impact barriers all played a part in protecting Hartley from serious injury or death.
I think it is difficult to argue that the safety measures in F1 are over the top after seeing something like that.

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Fast Freddy

NASCAR gives points down the grid. The result is that teams work to get their cars back on the track for a few more points. Not that is a bad thing.

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While last week Alonso didn’t want to troll around in last place for no reason, given a few points on offer it may make the mid/back field racing a bit more ‘exciting’ with at least some points on offer.

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And Alonso gave up and retired at the end of French GP rather than put in another lap or two to take the chequered flag in last. He would have at least stayed out if he got a few points for placing ahead of the DNFs.

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Messing with the points always changes things. If for example we go to a 20 position points system, for example: 50, 40, 35, 30, 26, 22, 18, 16, 14, 12, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 Then last year’s results would look like this: New 2017  Lewis Hamilton Lewis Hamilton  Sebastian Vettel Sebastian Vettel  Valtteri Bottas Valtteri Bottas  Kimi Räikkönen Kimi Räikkönen  Daniel Ricciardo Daniel Ricciardo  Max Verstappen   Max Verstappen  Sergio Pérez Sergio Pérez  Esteban Ocon Esteban Ocon  Felipe Massa Carlos Sainz Jr.  Carlos Sainz Jr. Nico Hülkenberg  Lance Stroll Felipe Massa  Romain Grosjean  Lance… Read more »