TPF Podcast #568- Australian Grand Prix Review

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Join Paul and me as we review the Australian Grand Prix in this Formula 1 Podcast. We cover each team and driver as they finished. We chat about the issues they faced and the results that were. We even hand out some awards and manage to get in some of your TPF Mailbag questions too!

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sunny stivala

NC. Am just testing

sunny stivala

ONLY THANKS TO YOU. BUT STILL SADDENED BY THE APPERENT LOSS OF OTHERS.

Kit

Hey guys, just an FYI. I watched a youtube video with an interview with Scott Dixon and he explained that the reason the halo system isn’t being used in indycar is because of oval tracks. They need to look up during the banking turns to see ahead and the halo blocks their view.

peter riva

Insightful and fun. Great job.

peter riva

Inciteful as well!

jakobusvdl

RIOT!!!!!!!! ;-)

jakobusvdl

You’ve mentioned a few times that Force India have had to develop a new chassis to accommodate the halo device, and that you feel that is (or maybe?) the reason they’re struggling this year. They had to develop a new chassis (and aero) last year to accommodate Bernie’s big wings and wheel regulation change. That chassis worked really well, and they didn’t deviate much from that layout to make their 2018 chassis. Given the other teams who stuck with similar concepts to last year are performing well, and F.I had a record income year last year, I suspect F.I’s problems… Read more »

sunny stivala

Where have you been? the other day I was telling NC that I was getting a bit worried about some regulars going missing.

jakobusvdl

Hi Sunny, yep it’s been a bit quiet on TPF.
I was actually away with family over the weekend, so missed most of the coverage of one of the few races in my timezone!
I still haven’t watched the whole race :-(
A great result for the Ferrari team, first and third, when Mercedes should have nailed a 1, 2, and RBR underperformed too.

The International

could well be, and true last years car had to be new for everyone but the financial/manpower resources every year could be taking a toll on development, as we all know the ongoing development is a race unto it self in F1

sunny stivala

I cannot confirm how solid it is, but I have been reading both big and small hints that both Williams and FI are just hanging round for dear life. If the present political scene brakes will not slow down the present move the Williams team might be in for some big trouble. Meanwhile Williams has blogged a request by F1 for advanced 2017 team payments.

subcritical71

I also read that Force India asked for advance payments and Williams veto’d. Maybe posturing on both sides(?). If true and Williams did indeed veto Force Indias’ advanced payment, and now are looking for the same, then I really don’t feel sorry for them if they don’t get it.

sunny stivala

I was under the impression that only FERRARI uses a veto.

subcritical71

My understanding too. Maybe veto is the wrong wording, but same impact.

sunny stivala

“VETO” is the right and proper wording because Williams were exercising an official power or right given to them to refuse to accept, reject or allow a decision or something. and as far as they have that right me liking it or not will make no difference, my original point was, “I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSIONTHAT ONLY FERRARI USES A VETO”.

meine

Where is that blog ;-)

sunny stivala

“Force India fights for survival- the next 4 weeks will decide if we will survive, I will have to rise a lot of money in a short amount of time- Robert Fernely”.

jakobusvdl

It is bizarre that the two Mercedes customer teams have gone backwards so quickly.
The thing that surprises me is that F.I haven’t changed their chassis concept, but have apparently lost so much relative performance. And as you say they probably don’t have the resources to quickly develop their way out of big problems.

sunny stivala

According to Robert Fernely the coming 4 weeks will decide if force india will survive or not financially.
According to Stroll the car Williams gave him to drive all he can do is just hang around till the flag drops and not race.
The present political situation (government wise) has the potential of wiping off one third of the Williams seat money. (upper of Euro 20 million).

jakobusvdl

It would be a disaster for F1 if it lost either F.I. or Williams, even greater if it lost both. Hopefully L.M would find some arrangement to prop those teams up, at least until the end of the season.
Though can you imagine how excited RBR would be if two customer p.u contracts were suddenly available?

subcritical71

The cynic in me thinks that Bernie will step in and ‘save the day’ and use that to show how much F1 still needs him…. forgetting to mention that it was him who helped get us to this point.

jakobusvdl

Brilliant, Bring back Brabham!
Could you image if Bernie was negotiating with L.M on behalf of the Teams.
Be afraid! Be very afraid!!!!!!

sunny stivala

Resources:- if one does not have the economic factor I do not see how one can have the productive factor for the required accomplishment and activity.

jakobusvdl

It would be possible, If you were able to devote your available resources only to tasks that were guaranteed to be successful.
To achive this you would need, either inspired judgement (F.I. 2017 car), good advice (Haas 2018 – allegedly), or pure blind luck.
I hope F.I. and Williams have access to any or all of these three options.

sunny stivala

JAKO. If there is a place or anything on GODS green earth that nothing is possible without money that place is in F1.

jakobusvdl

Hi Sunny, sadly you’re right, the days when it seemed that innovation or lateral thinking could make a big difference.
So that only leaves loads of money, or industrial espionage

sunny stivala

Mercedes saying that the field has clawed to within 0.5s of them was misleading, I believe that what they really meant/what they was really talking about was the FERRARI and red bull teams. the 2018 engine developments has also contributed to the said cars packages. but this year engine developments were reliability concentrated as such output gains were minimal. this is best reflected by the gains of the HAAS cars. I agree with you that this year the chassis development is even more critical. This Force India problem is not the first one, last time they had to start the… Read more »

sunny stivala

Putting the HALO on top the cockpit has a fundamental effect on the car’s aero – not to mention the structural demand it makes on the monocoque. This HALO conversion was a big struggle for force india with the end result being of a lot of unpaid bills on the desk.

sunny stivala

“The next 4 weeks will decide if we will survive, I will have to rise a lot of money in a short amount of time” 28 March 2018- Robert Fernley.

jakobusvdl

BTW International Paul, I thought the perspective you brought with your response to the ‘has any F1 champion ever faced the changes that Hamilton has?’ question was excellent.
Along with Todd’s https://theparcferme.com/what-would-todays-f1-grid-look-like-historically-speaking/ article, that is a great encouragement for us TFP followers to learn (or remind ourselves) of the history of the top level of motorsport.
Hope you and Todd can bring a bit of that to this seasons podcasts?

jakobusvdl

Excellent! I was reading some season reviews from 58, 68, 78, 88 and 98, and it was fascinating to see the the names of all of the drivers, teams, cars, circuits, and some of the events from those era’s. The numbers of races have boomed over the decades, the number of entries peaked in the 70’s (30+ cars in a race, and more taking part in pre qualifying!), the rate of development and innovation over that period is mind boggling. One thing that is really apparent is the numbers of cars finishing is definitely peaking in this era, for most… Read more »

subcritical71

One topic I haven’t seen much of is that Bottas (and team) chose to take a new ES and CE following his qualifying crash. A new gearbox was also fitted and that is an easy scenario… they took their grid penalty and now just need to use it for a further 5 races. The ES and CE however may or may not be able to be put back into service. By taking a new ES and CE before the first lap of a race does not look good so early in the season. (only 2 of these are allowed penalty… Read more »

sunny stivala

Yes, unfortunately even after qualifying I posted on the qualifying page about the Bottas/team situation there wasn’t nothing else said about the Bottas and team situation re gearbox and PU elements used.

jakobusvdl

On the SKY coverage they talked about the ES change as being a precautionary action. But I guess we will only start to hear next week in Bahrain if the ES or CE were damaged by the crash.
Isn’t it great that limiting the availability of resources (in this case P.U elements) levels the playing field between the rich and very rich teams?

sunny stivala

As far as we know even the STR/Honda car retirement was a precautionary action up to now. “the engine shut-dawn and then restarted but dropped into (limp home mode). this means that the software got a bad signal and took control to prevent possible damage. anyhow, as regards the first PU elements Presumed causalities what up to now is being talked about is, STR/Honda possibility/probability of MGU-H failure. Mercedes 77 possibility/probability of ES and CS failure plus the PU/ENGINE needs carful checking due to encountering cooling problems during the race, also 44 PU/ENGINE having encountered cooling problems during the race.… Read more »